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02/05/2007

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Sue Babudro


Very thoughtful and thought provoking. You didn't mention that Congressman Kucinich was also there. He always seems to get left out for some reason.

I just wish there was a way to lead, rather than to petition the beast, (the collective cabal) as if the beast (as in collective cabal) can behave in a way that isn't its natural state of being.

The ways I see are:

No military people will fight. They all just say no.

We take the baton from the rulers, not the petition leaders. You see where it got Martin Luther King, Jr, which no one seems to ever mention. You can't petition the beast. The beast bites and its venom is leathal.

Are we the child or the parent? We can kick and scream all we want to, but we have to grow up and assume our own responsibility. How do we do that? I think that is the question.

The ways are many, I suppose. We can become energy independent, food independent, water independent, all product independent, financially independent. All the ways they rule us, they cannot rule us if we are not dependent upon them for our needs. In other words, we can ignore them, like they don't exist, if we don't need them.

The problem is as an example: there was a report from an inside military air force commander who said the air force commanders are in the process of preparing for war, or rather attack of Iran. He reported they all hated it. None wants to do it, but they don't want to lose their jobs. Not wanting to lose jobs is a big factor in all the realms which attach to public need of the cabal.

We have to grow up, feel our power, and just say no. Will that happen? Not likely.

What is happening is not only the blame of those in power, but of those not realizing their own power, and of those cowering to the power elite, giving them the power. It is a statement of the state of humanity even more than it is a statement about the rulers. We allow the rulers. We feed the rulers. We re-create the rulers every day in our jobs, commerce, belief systems, and even in our response to the ills that the rulers give us. We hold onto the rulers. That is what has to be learned. All we have to do is to collectively let go of them. But we keep clinging to them and complaining about it.

If we know we have a job that proliferates the power elite, let it go. We can be creative and find other creative, positive, life affirming work. We can let go of the stuff and live smaller if we have to in order to do that. We need to get a back- bone. We need to get principled. We need to grow up and take responsibility for what the energy we put out daily does in our world. Then we will be the power that we are but don't already know it.

It means creating great change in our own lives. It means fueling our cars with biofuel that we create, or something along those lines, fuels that we create and provide for one another.

It means providing our own water supplies and our own food supplies. It means creating our own proucts and buying from those who create products themselves. It means powering our homes with off-the-grid power supplies. It means being in cottage industries, owning our own businesses or working for someone who has their own business that serves the community. It means rearranging our lives. That's not easy, but it beats the alternative which is to keep on doing the same thing as we spiral farther and farther into the abyss all the while petitioning the very beast we continue to feed, the beast that continues to feed on us.

sushil_yadav

The link between Mind and Social / Environmental-Issues.

The fast-paced, consumerist lifestyle of Industrial Society is causing exponential rise in psychological problems besides destroying the environment. All issues are interlinked. Our Minds cannot be peaceful when attention-spans are down to nanoseconds, microseconds and milliseconds. Our Minds cannot be peaceful if we destroy Nature.

Industrial Society Destroys Mind and Environment.

Subject : In a fast society slow emotions become extinct.
Subject : A thinking mind cannot feel.
Subject : Scientific/ Industrial/ Financial thinking destroys the planet.


Emotion is what we experience during gaps in our thinking.

If there are no gaps there is no emotion.

Today people are thinking all the time and are mistaking thought (words/ language) for emotion.


When society switches-over from physical work (agriculture) to mental work (scientific/ industrial/ financial/ fast visuals/ fast words ) the speed of thinking keeps on accelerating and the gaps between thinking go on decreasing.

There comes a time when there are almost no gaps.

People become incapable of experiencing/ tolerating gaps.

Emotion ends.

Man becomes machine.

A society that speeds up mentally experiences every mental slowing-down as Depression / Anxiety.

A ( travelling )society that speeds up physically experiences every physical slowing-down as Depression / Anxiety.

A society that entertains itself daily experiences every non-entertaining moment as Depression / Anxiety.

FAST VISUALS /WORDS MAKE SLOW EMOTIONS EXTINCT.

SCIENTIFIC /INDUSTRIAL /FINANCIAL THINKING DESTROYS EMOTIONAL CIRCUITS.

A FAST (LARGE) SOCIETY CANNOT FEEL PAIN / REMORSE / EMPATHY.

A FAST (LARGE) SOCIETY WILL ALWAYS BE CRUEL TO ANIMALS/ TREES/ AIR/ WATER/ LAND AND TO ITSELF.


To read the complete article please follow either of these links :

http://www.planetsave.com/ps_mambo/index.php?option=com_simpleboard&Itemid=75&func=view&id=68&catid=6

http://www.earthnewswire.com/index.php?option=com_forum&Itemid=89&page=viewtopic&t=11

sushil_yadav

tris mccall

"If the number of people who oppose the war has doubled in the last couple of years, to a high of 70 percent, why haven’t the numbers at demonstrations paralleled them?"


i think you can blame the president for that. don't you think he projects a certain... un-swayability? sometimes i think that the entire population of america could ring the white house gates in protest, and he'd still do whatever the hell he wanted to do. he's never listened to anybody else's opinions before, and he's not likely to start now. that's going to dampen the enthusiasm to go to rallies.

i remember during the 90s, the big criticism of bill clinton was that he was a "waffler". "he'll just stick his finger in the wind and do whatever seems to be in vogue", etc. many people -- some of them democrats -- wished aloud for a president who'd follow his convictions and refuse to be swayed by popular opinion. well, we sure got that. once more with feeling: be careful what you ask for.

prairie

It's easy to blame Bush (I didn't wish for Bush, nor did anyone I know). I think that particular criticism of Clinton came from the media, mainstream talking heads, some of whom liked to think their words represented something other than their own head trips (yes, including "democrats," who do not represent me!) and the "right."

Bush/Cheney and whoever they represent are steamrolling their way across the world. The question is, as it's obvious that petitioning the elites does nothing to make any sort of real change, what are WE going to do about it?

Come talk about this issue at Marc's Place coffeehouse on Saturday, Feb. 10,
8 pm, at The Reformed Church of Highland Park. Topic: New Orleans, Iraq, the Planet: Weaving Tough New Strategies for Activism

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